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Seer Training: Christian or mysticism
A church in Scotland which is part of a mainstream denomination is running a course on Seer Training. Is this forward thinking or a route into occultic mysticism?
by Watchman
 We live in a day of both great threat and great opportunity.
Churches are haemhorraging members, our nation is now post-Christian and we are seeing new government legislation coming onto force which is making it more and more difficult for believers at all levels to maintain a solid Christian witness. A post-war baby boom of church leaders is heading for retirement whilst Christian denominations increasingly are following the secular tide into condoning and encouraging immoral models of relationship.
But change also presents great opportunity. Whenever prevailing and historical models are threatened, the loss of the status quo can produce a vacuum into which new things can flow and new paradigms emerge.
The question today is whether what is 'new' is biblical or a return to mystic and deviant practices.
The following is the blurb attaching to a forthcoming course in Scotland for Christians.
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The Seer Course
The Seer Course will walk you through the ancient Hebrew definition of the seeing gift and how it applies to you personally today. In this course, you will learn practical applications of how to function as a seer, how God wants to communicate with you as a seer, and how He taught Jeremiah to see.
You will grow in metaphorical (sic) [should be 'metaphysical'? - Ed.] understanding and be amazed as you realize all the implications and possibilities of this gift. Most importantly, this course will change your life at a day-to-day level and radically heighten your relationship with God.
The Seer Course addresses these questions and more:
- How do you know you have this gift?
- How do you know you’re not just making it up?
- Does seeing include more than just spiritual sight?
- How do you operate as a seer?
- What are orbs, lights, and strange things you think you see?
- What is the seer’s role in relationship with God and others?
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What is indisputable in the age in which we live is that 'new' things are emerging at an unprecedented rate and the need for spiritual discernment is critical in our time. The word of God teaches us that there is nothing new under the sun. But these things can reappear clad in a new (different) set of clothes, so the need for continual vigilance is paramount. And the most subtle forms of deception is counterfeit of the real thing. The danger is even greater when there is (some) truth mixed in with error.
But in these issues, the days of fence-sitting and abstract philosophising are over. Opportunity or threat? It's make your mind up time. |
Watchman, 28/08/2009
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Peter Carr (Guest) |
28/08/2009 12:23 |
My initial response is to sneer at this seer course! The New Testament clearly tells us that for those who are reconcilled to their Creator thru the finished work of His only Son Jesus Christ, we have God's Spirit to guide us in to ALL truth! That is good enough for me.
Jn 16: 13
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."
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Alec (Guest) |
28/08/2009 14:33 |
Assuming that this is Whiteinch Church in Glasgow, which according to their web site is offering a "Seer Course"
then according to their site: "We are a evangelical, charismatic church"
Charismatic. That one word says it all.
No more need be said, added or mentioned.
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Andrea Mac |
28/08/2009 15:04 |
The church's advertising blurb states:
'as you realize all the implications and possibilities of this gift'
You actually have to have the gift of prophecy to begin with as that is what it is - A GIFT!
I'm afraid we are going to see more and more of these deviations from scripture. People are hungry for personal shows of 'power' and sadly they separate it out from simply honing a God-given gift to acquiring supernatural powers from a different source altogether.
I won't be putting my name down for it!
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Peter Carr (Guest) |
30/08/2009 08:07 |
Give 'em the Gospel (the whole counsel of God) plain and simple, it has worked for almost 2000 years, it still working today!
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George Orr |
30/08/2009 14:03 |
'Charismatic. That one word says it all.'
So you don't want the Holy Spirit in the church?
Give us a break.
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Alan Hughes |
31/08/2009 10:57 |
Alec, said "Charismatic. That one word says it all."
I'd love to know what you mean by that Alec?
My take on this is: I am surprised the church of Scotland has 'any' agenda. I'd assumed they were in a state of frozen animation awaiting the decision from the 'leadership' to repent and throw the Homosexual ministers into the street.
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Mark Hadfield |
31/08/2009 11:05 |
In response to Ed's question: metaphorical or metaphysical?
Jesus spoke in metaphor quite a lot, e.g. "the fields are white unto harvest", every parable, etc.
But what I want to know is this. Who is this Watchman who asks us to publicly jump off the fence, but keeps his own identity a secret? Doesn't seem fair does it?
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Peter Carr (Guest) |
31/08/2009 11:21 |
Good one Mark! I asked the same question months ago and got a roasting for it!!!
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