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Fife fellowship writes to Presiding Officer

A Christians Together site member is part of the eldership of the Mustard Seed Fellowship in Glenrothes. Along with his colleagues he has written to the Scottish Parliament in response to the current same-sex marriage consultation.


Ed preface: the paragraph headings and emphases have been inserted to assist the reader.

To: Tricia Marwick MSP
Presiding Officer
The Scottish Parliament
Edinburgh EH99 1SP

From: The Mustard Seed Fellowship

MustardSeedWe write to you on behalf our fellow Christians in the Mustard Seed Fellowship who meet at the Mustard Seed Hall, Well Road, Glenrothes. Although less well known and much more inconspicuous than most other buildings used for Christian worship, the Mustard Seed Hall is by far the oldest and longest established meeting place used by Christians in the town of Glenrothes. Its origin as such can be traced back by documentary evidence to 1875 and it has been used continuously since.

We are an independent, evangelical church fellowship seeking to follow the teachings of the Bible, which we believe to be the authoritative, infallible, divinely inspired Word of God. We are not homophobic, which seems to be the politically convenient buzzword currently used to describe those who, on the basis of Christian faith, cannot reconcile the practise of homosexuality with the teaching of God’s Word.

Our services are open to all

The word “homophobia” describes a fear or hatred of homosexuals. We neither fear those who choose this life style, nor do we hate them. Our response to such would be to invite them to share with us the teaching of God’s Word and avail themselves of the salvation that it offers through the atoning death and resurrection of His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Every one of our services is freely open to all. The only restriction, a voluntary one, is participation in the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper, which remembers Christ in His death, more commonly known as Communion. According to Biblical teaching only those who have been born again by the Spirit of God and whose manner of life is in keeping with the teaching of God’s Word qualify for such sacramental privilege.

These opening remarks are to establish our beliefs as being free from prejudice based on any cultural, dogmatic or human basis, but only as those founded on an unshakeable belief in the supremacy of God’s Word and a personal faith in Jesus Christ.

To re-define marriage is wrong

The purpose of this letter is to protest at the Scottish Government’s intention to re-define the institution of marriage and its presumption to have the right to impose legislation affecting the Christian church contrary to the Word of God, which alone must be its charter and authority. Whether we approve or disapprove, civil partnerships make legal provision for those who choose a homosexual lifestyle to enjoy the state’s acknowledgment and approval. If a particular church and its constitution permit it, there is presently no legal impediment to such persons to making some sort of formal commitment within a building normally reserved for Christian worship. We must make it clear that The Mustard Seed Hall would not be available for this purpose.

To go beyond this and re-define the status of marriage is entirely beyond the moral and, we contend, the legal authority of any government. Marriage is the union of a man and a woman. This is enshrined in God’s Holy Word and actually also in both The Universal Declaration of Human Rights and The European Convention of Human rights. While Bible believing Christians would find their authority and guide in the former, those who choose to disregard Divine guidance are faced with the fact that the following two man-made charters do not give those of the same sex who desire to be “married” to one another that privilege or right under law.
For thousands of years marriage has been recognised as the main building block in civilised society and is essential to the orderly continuance of the human race. Mr Gordon Wilson, a former SNP leader, and the Rev. David Robertson of St Peter’s Free Church, Dundee succinctly put it in their response to the Scottish Government’s consultation on this matter when they wrote, “Marriage is essential to the human condition; same-sex unions are a biological cul-de-sac”.

The real source of antagonism

The Bible believing Christian community is accused of “phobia” in their opposition to a law that is clearly superfluous, irrelevant and contrary to the benefit of society. Actually the gay anti-Christian lobby is guilty of manifesting its own phobia. Whenever any reservations or opposition to these proposals by the Scottish Government are expressed, there is an immediate and vitriolic response from the homosexual lobby. MSP John Mason’s attempt to modify the SNP Government’s proposals was quickly condemned as an “ill informed homophobic rant” by one prominent Internet political blogger.
Patrick Harvey MSP and a number of Mr Mason’s fellow nationalist MSP’s used the media to attack him in a most intemperate fashion. Mr Harvey is not in a position to claim a disinterest in the issue, being openly bi-sexual and therefore publicly disdainful of the Christian faith. We could cite many more examples of anti-Christian phobia approved and endorsed by the authorities, such as the last administration’s funding of the public desecration of the Holy Scriptures in Glasgow. How ironic that Glasgow’s original motto was “Let Glasgow Flourish By The Preaching Of Thy Word And The Praising Of Thy Name.”

Those who espouse the homosexual lifestyle are in fact a tiny minority. They enjoy massive publicity and influence out of all proportion to their incidence in society. The Scottish Government’s bias in their favour is underlined by the fact that its Equality Unit has funded Lesbian and Gay organisations to the tune of £5.94 million since the 2001/2002 fiscal year, while it has given £3.82 million to religious groups. Of this sum only £595,223 was given to Christian churches.
If any unbiased and independent observer cared to study these figures and consider the tremendous work that many Christian churches do in fighting poverty and providing social support in deprived areas, an eyebrow might well be raised! Why should organisations that represent less than two percent (Government figures) of the population be granted ten times as much as Christian churches, which represent more than fifty percent?
Equally, why should the Scottish Government prioritise and push through legislation that is an affront to the teaching and deeply held beliefs of such a substantial part of the Scottish population? If this legislation were required to protect a persecuted minority it would have credence. No such requirement exists. Full protection is already legally guaranteed to all ethnic and cultural minorities under British and Scots Law.

Our stated views

You are now the Presiding Officer in the Scottish Parliament and are thus freed from the shackles of party politics. We understand that you may not be able to vote on this issue, but nevertheless as the constituency MSP for Glenrothes we call on you to take the views of our church fellowship into consideration and represent them to the Scottish Government.

To sum up our opposition to the Scottish Government’s proposed legislation we state the following:

  1. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman. It is ordained by God and has been a manifest blessing to individuals, nations and races for thousands of years.
  2. No Government has the right to redefine this, the most basic and foundational building block of civilised society.
  3. To legislate for the purpose of granting the right of same-sex couples to legally formalise their union in places hitherto reserved for the worship of God would undoubtedly open the door for further legislation compelling such places to make that availability compulsory. It would lead to a morass of litigation and counter litigation that could prove enormously costly to all concerned, including the Scottish Government. The practise of homosexuality is clearly contrary to the Holy Bible, which all true Christians hold to be the Word of God. To make the offer or impose the right of its practitioners to marry in a place of Christian worship would constitute a direct challenge to that Word.
  4. This legislation is perceived by a very large proportion of the Christian community to be a direct attack on their Christian Faith. It is also apparent that in this matter the Government is allowing itself, whether consciously or not, to be manipulated by a tiny but vociferous minority that does not represent the views or lifestyle of the great majority of Scottish people.
  5. The ancient Christian culture of the indigenous people of the Scottish nation is being undermined and brought into disrepute by a government which chooses to disregard the Eternal God and His infallible Word. This they do to their own peril. The story of the Scottish Covenanters is a mighty history lesson for any transient government to refrain from appearing to persecute its God fearing, Bible believing citizens.

In closing, because we write this letter on the basis of our Christian beliefs and none other, we quote from God’s Word whose authority must supersede all others.

“He that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God” (2 Samuel ch.23, v.3)

We write to you as our representative in the Scottish Parliament whose devolved powers give it responsibility in this area of legislation and therefore charge it with framing that legislation in a manner that is not contrary to the common good. We thank you for your consideration of our letter.

Yours sincerely,
Kenny MacLeod, Harry Thomson, John E. Miller

Mustard Seed Fellowship, 05/12/2011

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Helen Fleming (Guest) 22/03/2013 16:58
Amen and again I say Amen.
I am not against Homosexuals nor am Homophobic. I used to think it was ok to be homosexual, that was until I became born again in Christ Jesus. I know both male and female friends who are Homosexualand I still love them for who they are and can only pray for their salvation. The Bible clearly states in Leviticus Chapters 18 and 20,the following.
18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. (Leviticus 18:22 NIV)[2]
20:13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does
with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (Leviticus 20:13 NIV)[3]

God gave man a woman to be his mate so we could create offspring. The Church of Scotland in particular are getting more and more relaxed on what is acceptable, clearly they are no longer following God's Word. It's a shame really it's all in Isaiah. Corrupt practices. I wholheartedly agree with your letter, well done Mustard Seed.

Papa (Guest) 22/03/2013 17:38
God loves you all may he bless you
guest (Guest) 22/03/2013 18:08
Helen Fleming (Guest) 22/03/2013 16:58
Amen and again I say Amen.
I am not against Homosexuals nor am Homophobic.....
They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (Leviticus 20:13 NIV)[3]

an interesting juxtaposition!
I'm not homophobic but they should be put to death!

Papa (Guest) 22/03/2013 18:47
Guest just bless them show god love
The only show in town (Guest) 22/03/2013 18:48
Fellow Christians lend me you ears (and your fears)!! It is time to give up opposition to this legislation, why? Because God has given us the only definition of marriage in His Word. It is of no consequence what man does, it won't change what God has ordained.

Also, this world is on a collision course with its Creator. The Bible tells us this, and that as the end times approach sin will increase.

This legislation will go through, why? Because God has handed this nation over to its sin (cf. Rom 1: 18 ff).

So, let it go and let's get on with the serious business of seeking to rescue people from the flames and the wrath to come!
John Miller 22/03/2013 18:50
Helen your thoughts are good. It has become almost a well-worn cliche that God loves the sinner but hates the sin. It nevertheless remains absolutely true.

The other side of the coin, if I may descibe it thus is the absolute necessity of sinners repenting of their sin and coming to God seeking His forgiveness through the atoning death of His only begotten Son.

There is no shortcut, no way round the necessary step laid doen in the word of God. We cannot reserve a right to continue in sin and expect grace to abound. We cannot come to the cross and reserve our independence of God in matters where we disagree with His word.

If any of us has received the forgiveness of sins through the atoning sufferings and death of Jesus it must start with unreserved, unconditional repentance for our sinful nature and every sinful act in our lives. Will we subsequently fail? Of course we will, but the blood of Jesus Christ is our eternal assurance of forgiveness. It cleanses us from all sin.
Papa (Guest) 22/03/2013 19:03
God show you his blessing John Miller
guest (Guest) 26/03/2013 13:23
Helen Fleming Taking random verses like that does not give the big picture

(Guest) 09/12/2014 15:22
Very true, John!
It is but a "well worn cliché"
But the question is; is it true?
This quote is not supported by any Scripture, unless that is, you hold to a certain theology, which is also supported by universalists, Unitarians, Theosophists, Christian Scientists, Jehovah's witnesses etc (I count you not within that number).
This "well worn cliché" is a meaningless distinction. I ask you, what is there in the sinner but sin?
"God is angry with the wicked every day" Psalm 7.11.
As has been well said, "To tell the sinner that God loves him" is to cauterize his conscience and afford him a sense of security in his sins."

Editor 09/12/2014 20:08
The above post would seem to yet another attempt to engage in the Calvinist/Arminian debate. As the subject has been discussed/debated ad nauseam to facility for further posts on this subject will be confined to registered site members.
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