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Ian Paisley calls for repentance over crash

Ian PaisleyRt. Hon. Rev. Ian Paisley, the outspoken MP from Northern Ireland has called the government to repentance over the current economic crash.

The Herald wrote: Mr Paisley does not ever lounge on the green benches without purpose. He doesn't bob up and down vying for attention from the Speaker. When he stands proceedings come to a halt. And when he talks the lilting Ulster timbre of his voice demands attention as much as his 82 years of age.

Addressing the house Dr. Paisley stated:

"I know there are many beliefs in this house and my belief in God is well known. But I trust that our whole nation will turn in repentance and cry to God for an intervention so that the calamity will not come on our children and the babes in the cots."

Of the incident and the Chancellor of the Exchequer's response, Lifebite reported:  'Mr Darling stopped, took a breath and then proceeded to ridicule Mr Paisley. “Eh, I am not as well qualified to comment on whether or not divine intervention can help us or not,” he said with scarce attention to grammar.'

The Lifebite article contained reference to how the hand of God has been acknowledged as producing miracles during the Second World War in terms of the retreat from Dunkirk and the Battle of Britain. These can be found in a trilogy written by the late David Gardiner: 'The Trumpet Sounds for Britain'.

In the above book the author wrote:

When I felt the burden of the Lord to issue 'A Warning to the Nation' in 1969, I did so because I could see quite clearly that Britain had passed from the position of being a nation which had experienced the hand of Almighty God in blessing - all down the years of her history and in remarkable deliverances - to becoming a nation under God's judgments, because of the way she had forsaken God and was now deliberately flying in his face.

I also warned at that time that unless Britain repents and returns to the Lord, there is an even worse judgment to come. We need to wake up to the fact that the judgments of God are progressive in character and in severity, and that this is particularly so when gross sin and wickedness are on the increase and continue to remain largely unchecked.

The Bible clearly shows that when one form of judgment fails to bring a people to repentance, God has to visit them with another judgment - of a more severe kind.
And often he has to continue with another, and yet another. Each visitation takes a more serious form than the previous one, whilst all the time God is pleading with his people to return to him. [Emphasis added].

When the leaders and people of a nation, such as our own, stubbornly refuse to heed the warnings which have repeatedly been given and deliberately choose to ignore the many signs which God has been doing amongst them, then God has to resort to far more stringent methods in order to bring such a people to its knees. And if there is still no sign of repentance when he has done that, the Bible clearly teaches that as iniquity in the nation comes to the full, there has to come a day of final reckoning.

Indeed, there has to come the time when, just as in the days of Noah, the storm must finally break....

Meanwhile, a prophecy given to Paul Slennet in February 1989 was the basis of a book published in 1997 'Earthquake in the city." The book is currently out of print but is in the course of being republished and should be available in December.

Christians Together, 10/10/2008

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fly on the wall (Guest) 28/10/2008 14:58
Hmmmmm! It is also interesting that despite genuine repentance the great city of Nineveh did eventually perish!
John Parker (Guest) 28/10/2008 15:29
As per earlier remarks, the outcome is not our reponsibility. The Bible teaches that not everyone will be saved, but it is nevertheless God's heart that "none would perish but all come to repentance" - and in this context He calls the church to be prophetic (outspeaking His character, will and purposes) and evangelistic (literally meaning "angels carrying good news").
fly on the wall (Guest) 28/10/2008 15:52
You still don't seem willing to accept that repentance is a gift from God, John!
Penny Lee 28/10/2008 17:03
There's a very interesting article in an encyclopedia about Nineveh [url=]here[/url]
John Parker (Guest) 28/10/2008 17:12
Thanks Andrea - will have a look.

Regarding the previous message: "You still don't seem willing to accept that repentance is a gift from God."

EVERTHING is a gift of God. But that doesn't mean that John the Baptist shouldn't have called his listeners to repentance.

What I am more interested in is getting the message of Salvation (which starts with repentance) to those who have yet to hear it, rather than in theological debate regarding whether or not it is a gift.

In this context (of reaching the lost) I would much rather have one Dr. Paisley in the public square than a thousand theological discussions behind church walls.
fly on the wall (Guest) 28/10/2008 18:52
John, I am sorry that you think so poorly of theological debate, thankfully the reformers (like Luther) didn't. Theological debate is both valid and necessary, none of us witness in a vacuum. Without proper debate we would all be the poorer. I am sure Ian Paisley, one of Irelands greatest debaters would agree.
John Parker (Guest) 28/10/2008 19:44
FOTW - please read what I said: "In this context (of reaching the lost)". Theological debate is invaluable, but that is not what Dr. Paisley's actions are about.
fly on the wall (Guest) 28/10/2008 22:25
Like in many things we will need to agree to disagree.
John Parker (Guest) 30/10/2008 08:01
As earlier message: "What I am more interested in is getting the message of Salvation (which starts with repentance) to those who have yet to hear it, rather than in theological debate regarding whether or not it is a gift."
Andrew Strom (Guest) 30/10/2008 17:18

There are large sections of the modern 'Prophetic' movement who for a long time now have bitterly opposed all that David Wilkerson stands for. They describe him as a "Doom and Gloom" merchant - always warning of what is coming and calling the nation and the church to REPENTANCE.

I received an email from some U.S friends awhile ago who had just gone back to a Pentecostal church after some years. They told me, "If I bring up David Wilkerson, they all get a hateful, angry look on their face." Isn't that terribly sad.

Even though David Wilkerson is the one man who has consistently warned America of cataclysms just like the ones we are seeing, he is still denigrated. Even though he is proved right, still they detest him! I think it is because his major message is "REPENT".
And he doesn't pussy-foot around like a lot of these other so-called "prophets".

When the "God Wants You Rich" prosperity message began to spread, David was one of the few leaders who publicly refuted it and called the people to repent from the "love of money". Many hated him for that. Especially because he is so direct and up-front.

And when the 'Toronto Blessing' came along, with churches full of the most weird and often ugly behaviour - he called it like it was. He was one of the few (if any) Pentecostal leaders who actually stood up publicly and refuted this new 'spirit' that was invading the church. You can imagine how despised he was for that.

There is a 'Prophetic' movement in the world today that is in my opinion very far removed from the word 'Prophet'. It sells truckloads of books and holds untold conferences, but at the end of the day it is a mealy-mouthed travesty of the word 'Prophetic'. It retains its popularity because it is almost always "positive" and up-lifting. The voice of an Amos or Jeremiah is rarely (if ever) heard in its ranks - let alone a "John the Baptist".
It is almost never blunt or confrontational - especially about sin.

A lot of this movement has a chronic obsession with the 'religious spirit'. Everywhere these people look all they can see are religious spirits of legalism, pharisaism, etc. Thus they are always talking about "grace, grace, grace". The words "Sin, Righteousness and Judgement" are almost a horror to them, because they are so fearful of being 'religious'. And thus when they come across a prophet who actually preaches on Sin, Righteousness and Judgement (-which are the very things Jesus said His Spirit would CONVICT of), they reject him. Every true prophet that I know of down through history has been a 'Sin, Righteousness and Judgement' preacher. So has every true Revivalist. (Finney, Wesley, Whitfield, Edwards, etc). It is part of the job description!

We have invented a new meaning for the term 'Prophetic' in our day that is far below the standard of the Bible. And far below the standard that must be in place to see a true Revival.
I think it was God's spokesman Ezekiel who coined the term "pillow prophets". That is the last thing that America needs in her hour of crisis. What is needed are voices who truly tell it like it is - who WARN the people, no matter what the cost. -A 'clear trumpet sound'.

David Wilkerson has been just such a voice. And he is almost a 'lone' voice - though thank God he is widely heard. I believe God has placed him in New York for this very hour - the city that combines world political power (-The U.N) with world financial power and world media power. David is "God's man"
in that city - I truly believe this. And if he says that God's message to America through these tragedies is "REPENT" then personally I will believe him rather than any mealy-mouthed 'prophet' who says otherwise. I am going to listen to the "man on the spot".

David hates sin and deception so much, and loves God and the people so much, that he cannot stand to be silent when God's heart-truths are being trampled underfoot. That is the mark of a true prophet.

Keep it up, David!
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