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Tesco reluctant to give 'Halal' refund

A Tesco store in Northern Ireland is reported to have been 'reluctant' to refund a woman who unknowlingly purchased Halal lamb. Belfast woman Andrena Robinson joins the growing campaign to ensure that products are clearly labelled.

by Christian Institute

tescoA Tesco store near Belfast was reluctant to refund a Christian woman who unknowingly bought Halal lamb until she said: you wouldn’t treat a Muslim this way.
Mrs Andrena Robinson took the meat back to her local store after she read in the press that all of Tesco’s New Zealand lamb was slaughtered according to Islamic ritual.
The duty manager at the Tesco store said he would not refund her unless there was a problem with the quality of the meat.


But Mrs Robinson told him that if she had been a Muslim who had unknowingly bought non-Halal meat, the store would give her money back.
She said: “I felt that as a Christian I had as much right to demand a refund. At that point he relented and reluctantly took the meat back.”

If Tesco had continued to refuse her a refund when it would have given one to a Muslim, Mrs Robinson could have launched a legal action.
She added: “If I’d known it was Halal I would not have bought it. It is an issue of conscience for me, something I feel strongly about.
“If meat is Halal, it should be clearly labelled. Then customers can make an informed choice.”

 Woman initially refused refund by store giant 


There is now a growing campaign for supermarkets to properly label any Halal meat sold in their store.

Read on in the Christian Institute.....

Christian Institute, 14/10/2010

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Penny Lee 04/08/2012 09:47
Yes, I was aware of this at the time. This has nothing to do with 'food offered to idols' but I find it quite repulsive, as I'm sure many others do.

I guess some people would say, "We drink cows milk, so why not human milk?" Well, we eat meat from various animals but wouldn't eat humans - I hope!
Penny Lee 04/08/2012 09:55

What is your reason for being vegetarian? Is it purely animal welfare? If so, but you weren't vegetarian, would you have any problem eating 'food offered to idols'?
Seumas, Tobermory (Guest) 04/08/2012 11:55
Penny, multiple reasons. Firstly, I have an allergy to nitrite preservative used in a lot of meats. The effects have been quite serious on occasions, causing urticaria, angioedema and other nasties. Secondly, I have never been a great meat-eater anyway. The animal welfare side of it doesnt bother me too much, although I would echo the words of Paul Mcartney "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian!"

Regarding the idols matter, false "gods" simply do not exist, so there is not actually an entity to which the food can be offered. It is in effect meaningless

So, to answer your question it wouldnt bother me too much. It depends if you accept that a religious ceremony (eg halal slaughter) endows the product with anything special or not.. Its a bit like a Catholic eucharist in that respect. To my mind, its irrelevant.

Penny Lee 04/08/2012 12:48
I guess it does all come down to conscience. Certainly, from 1 Corinthians 8, it doesn't appear to be a sin but if you feel uncomfortable doing it, then don't do it. It seems to be the same as other practices which, in themselves, are not sinful but, if it just doesn't feel right, or if it causes someone weaker to sin, then it is best not to do it.

"4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: we know that ‘An idol is nothing at all in the world’ and that ‘There is no God but one.’ 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords’), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

7 But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. 8 But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

9 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling-block to the weak. 10 For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.
Editor 04/08/2012 13:28
In a Christian context, it is (as Penny and others have said) to do with 'conscience' and deference to the views of others (in whose company one is eating - or drinking or observing special days, etc). Rom 14:21

However given that there are no other Gods there are demonic entitities, and a Christian knowingly and against their conscience who eats 'meat sacrificed to idols' may be opening themselves up to the 'other spirits' (in the way that they might by practising Yoga).

To introduce an analogy, Protestant teachers differ on how they view the spiritual dynamic present at the Communion celebration. But (bearing in mind that the Lord's Supper was and should be a proper meal) how would/should a believer respond to eating Halal meat at the Lord's table?

But apart from the Christian aspects, surely 'honest' labelling is a principle that both the Christian and non-Christian world would look to be upheld?

Regarding Paul Macartney and vegetarianism, he might be encoured by a reading of Isaiah 11: 6-9, but if he is wise he will also read the rest of the Bible (which - pray God - would give him pause for further thought).
romin (Guest) 13/08/2012 19:42
"My own understanding of it would be due to the following instruction and practice:

"animals should be slaughtered upon utterance of the Islamic prayer "in the name of God"

Since this is Allah, rather than God, then I do not feel comfortable eating it" well penny your own understanding is flawed, God is a germanic word if you are aware Jesus spoke Aramaic which is a sister language to Arabic, if you google an Aramic translator type in God it will say Allah or very close.

Christians Arabs also call God Allah and Muslims believe in the God of Moses and Jesus the One and only God. Hence muslism can eat the meat of teh Christians and Jews.
Terry Boyle (Guest) 13/08/2012 20:31
The point here is not so much the 'name' of the deity but rather the person of the deity.

Christians worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is - Christians believe - the God (the Father) of Jesus Christ (the Son).
Islam is a derivative of Ishmael, and Allah (as followers of Islam call their deity) is not the same as God (in whom Christians place their trust).
This is not to disrespect belief and believers (of any faith). However the Muslim deity and the Christian diety are not one and the same.

Followers of Islam do not accept that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (They believe that Jesus was only a prophet and a lesser prophet than Mohamet. However Muslims who do follow Jesus Christ accept Him as Saviour and the Son of God (and 'God in human form').

I may be wrong, but I am told that the inscription around the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem states that God has no son.
Penny Lee 13/08/2012 20:49
Thank you Terry for your explanation. Like yourself, I am not interested in the derivations of the word God, only the understanding of who I am referring to. I don't accept that muslims and Christians worship the same God, regardless of the name they use.

Also, if muslims had no problem eating non-halal meat, then there wouldn't be separate slaughter-houses, rituals and retailers selling halal meat.
Roy Thompson (Guest) 15/02/2013 22:05
With all the noise about horsemeat being sold for beef and David Cameron calling supermarkets and suppliers to clean up their act is it now time to press for Halal meat to be labelled as such?
Guest (Guest) 01/03/2013 19:24
Oh Christians, if you are really followers of the truth then open your eyes and find out the truth from the true scriptures of Jesus. Don't follow man made bibles.
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