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The Church of Scotland: 1560 - 2009

In  a dramatic climax to an issue that has been rumbling for 50 years, the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland has finally surrendered on the key issue of installing an openly gay minister.

by Watchman

Update (23 May 2011)
The Church of Scotland has voted in favour of allowing homosexual men and lesbians to serve as church ministers. Read on....

Update (21 May 2013)
The Church of Scotland has voted to allow actively-gay clergy to serve within the denomination. Read on....

Update (31 July 2014)
Rt. Rev. John Chalmers, the current Church of Scotland Moderator, "has told congregations not to insist on a belief in God for people wanting to join." Read on...

Update (16 May 2015)
The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland has voted to allow congregations to ordain gay ministers who are in same sex civil partnerships. Delegates voted 309 in favour and 183 against. A decision to allow gay minister to 'marry' is to be deferred to the 2016 Assembly. Read on....

LATEST UPDATE: (21 May 2016)
The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland has voted (339 to 215) to allow ministers to be in same-sex marriages. Read on.....

Ed footnote: The 'Latest Update' title under-states the significance of these most recent events. On this an other issues the Church of Scotland has demonstrated that, as Scotland's national church and largest denomination, has effectively jettisoned the Word of God as its doctrinal foundation.
first published 24/05/2009

C of S tombstoneON SATURDAY, 23 May 2009, Church of Scotland leaders – meeting in general assembly – voted to uphold a decision by an Aberdeen congregation to appoint a gay minister.

After more than four hours of debate the annual gathering of the Kirk voted by 326 to 267 to support the call by the Queen’s Cross Church in Aberdeen to the Rev Scott Rennie who currently lives with his male partner.

In so doing, the Kirk has effectively turned its back on the traditional view of sexual relations as being confined to monogamous heterosexual marriage. And accordingly the institution has renounced its historic claim to be faithful to the Word of God as contained in both the Old and New Testaments.

The last crisis of this magnitude was in 1843 when a substantial minority of ministers, elders and members left the Church over the matter of state interference with church affairs and in defence of the right of local congregations to appoint their own ministers.
In a supreme irony, this is exactly what Queen’s Cross Church has now won the right to do.

A three-way split

The historical record of that 19th century schism often refers to the church being split in two. But in fact the division was a three-way affair. There were those who left, those who remained loyal to the establishment, and – as a third grouping – a substantial number who were in agreement with the secessionists, but who stayed in order to try and bring reform from within. And it is highly likely that the same dynamic will apply in coming days. Church leaders are fiercely loyal to the institution(s) within which they serve; and departure is not something that is taken at all lightly. But a gambling man would say that in any battle between the individual (or even a substantial group of individuals) and the establishment, the odds are stacked in favour of the great big machine; and there is no reason to think differently in this case.
..the lingering presence will be as ethereal as the vaporous smile on the face of the  Cheshire cat. It will be interesting to see how Bible-faithful leaders respond to this seismic decision, but what is absolutely certain is that the Church of Scotland has lost all moral authority under God to continue to represent the Deity and the head of the universal church which is Jesus Christ.

Irrespective of the manner in which events will now unfold, there is absolutely no doubt that the structures will continue to exist and function.

Even now plans will be in place for the next Church of Scotland General Assembly in 2010. But the lingering presence will be as ethereal as the vaporous smile on the face of the Cheshire cat.

Ichabod: the glory has departed

In a vision given to the prophet Ezekiel two thousand and five hundred years ago, the presence of God was seen to move from the Holy of Holies, to the temple threshold and then out to the city walls before disappearing from Jerusalem altogether (Ezekiel chs. 9 - 11). It was, as in Eli and Samuel's day,  ‘Ichabod’ - the glory had departed from Israel (1 Sam. 4:21).

Intensive CareWhile the form and structure will continue, it will be – as a brain-dead patient on a life support system – an illusion of life. And while some good men and women of God might continue to function within the Kirk endeavouring to reclaim the Biblical ground, their roles and operating environment will have changed. Any who do stay will essentially become missionaries in a dark and God-forsaken land. Amongst those who depart, like the mourners at a graveside, some will leave quickly whilst others will just slowly drift away. But the net effect will be cumulative and inevitable.

And what was begun in the Reformation upheavals of the 16th century when men of God fought valiantly to restore the Word of God as an absolute standard is now – at least as far as the Kirk is concerned – effectively reversed. Whilst other Bible-faithful denominations and groupings will continue to fight the good fight in Scotland, the spiritual welfare of the nation can no longer be entrusted to the Church of Scotland. The institution will survive, but in spiritual terms it must surely now be declared (almost) dead.
Only the Spirit of the living God can restore Scotland's national church (cf Ezek 37: 1-9).

Ed footnotes:

1. In the wake of this decision there could be an upsurge in the number of ministers who 'come out' as being gay, and they and others will now feel confident to officiate at civil partnership ceremonies.
Much prayer is needed if the Church is to continue to have any positive influence whatsoever on the spiritual well-being of the Scottish people and the nation.

2. A decision on an 'overture' (motion) to the Assembly from the Lochcarron-Skye Presbytery calling on the Church to affirm its traditional view on sexuality and ministerial appointments has been deferred until Monday (25 May). Whilst the debate around the motion will be of great interest, the stout wall of Biblical orthodoxy has been well and truly breached.

2. The Church of Scotland emerged out of the 16th Century Reformation. Just under one hundred years later it was officially constituted around the Westminster Confession of Faith (1646). The other main post-Reformation grouping adhered to the episcopalian system of having bishops, and became The Scottish Episcopal Church.

From the 17th century until the present day, the presbyterian church in Scotland has had a history of splits, schisms, secessions, re-unions and amalgamations. You can find a brief history here.

Watchman, 21/05/2013

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Peter Carr 05/06/2009 17:06
Interesting to see that things have gone quiet, particularly with rules for some and rules for others when it comes to speaking out!! (My post of 28th May on this thread refers).
Editor 06/06/2009 09:52
As Peter remarks: 'things have gone quiet'. However, I would suggest that this has more to do with the myriad of private conversations that are currently going on within C of S groupings (members, kirk session, leaders, etc.) than it has to any 'gagging order' imposed by the General Assembly.
Peter Carr 07/06/2009 09:06
It would appear that it is all going to blow open again today. The BBC are reporting that ministers in Skye and Lochcarron will announce to their congregations this morning the further action that they intend to take.
Editor 08/06/2009 08:26
The situation will vary from place to place, individual to individual. As Peter has done, any news can be left here.
The on-set of Summer tends to create a bit of a 'vacuum'. And with the Luis Palau activities for the next 2 weeks, everyone's grass needing cut and the approach of school sports and the holiday season there may well be a lull - but who knows?
Peter Carr 29/06/2009 14:33
I understand that there is to be a meeting of Inverness churches tonight (according to BBC Scotland news item), any chance of an update please?
Editor 30/06/2009 13:29
Peter asked: "any chance of an update please"

Not right at this moment, but later in the week.

I will not be reporting anything directly from the meeting as those leaders present were and are under an obligation not to speak in a public/media arena; but I will give a broader assessment of the situation as I see it based on various conversations over last week and this one.
Editor 24/05/2011 18:02
This article relates to the 2009 General Assembly but the content is relevant for today (May 2011).
Drumclog 1679. (Guest) 22/05/2013 12:09
So The C.o.S. has decided it is their word against The Word of God. Scotland is no longer " Bible loving Scotland."
Shame on them !
Editor 18/05/2015 09:16

The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland has voted to allow congregations to ordain gay ministers who are in same sex civil partnerships.

Delegates voted 309 in favour and 183 against.

The vote followed a church-wide debate and consultations with all 45 presbyteries, which voted 31 to 14 in favour of change.

A further vote will be held this week on whether or not to extend ordination to ministers in same sex marriages.

Supporters said it was time for the church to be inclusive and recognise the "mixed economy" of modern Scotland.

Opponents warned that the move was contrary to God's law, would prove divisive and lead to resignations.

Read on...

Editor 04/06/2016 13:57

The BBC reports -
The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland has voted to allow ministers to continue to serve if they are in a gay marriage.

The historic vote on the first day of this year's gathering in Edinburgh draws a line under a row which has split the Kirk for nine years years.

Commissioners voted by 339 votes to 215 in favour of the move.

The decision means that same sex civil marriage will be permitted for ministers.
However, they will not themselves be allowed to conduct gay weddings within the church.

Last year, the assembly agreed that ministers could enter into civil partnerships.

Read on....

Ed footnote: Although the above report suggests that the issue has "split the Kirk for nine years", in fact the debate has been rumbling on over decades.

But what the current situation does is to render manifest the absolute fall into utter apostasty by Scotland's 'national' church in this and other vital issues of biblical truth including the Abrahamic Covenant (Ref. )
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