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Teacher sacked for speaking of her faith

A Christian teacher had been dismissed from her job after discussing her faith with a mother and her sick child and offering to pray for them has now been reinstated.

by Christian Legal Centre

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Olive JonesUPDATE 02/01/10


Supply Teacher Sacked for Offering Prayer Able to Return to Work

Olive Jones, a Christian supply teacher from Weston-super-Mare, has been offered the opportunity to return to her old job after North Somerset Council recognised that it can be appropriate for a tutor to share their faith with a pupil or a family, depending on the situation.

Mrs Jones, 54, was dismissed in November 2009 after attending a meeting with her employers who had received a complaint from a parent that Olive had shared her faith with a sick pupil and asked the pupil’s mother whether she could pray for the pupil.

Mrs Jones was devastated at the decision made on 25 November, particularly as she was a highly regarded teacher and enjoyed a good relationship with the pupil and her family. She said that the decision was ‘completely disproportionate’ and that it made her feel as though she had committed a crime.

No formal investigations were undertaken before the meeting to clarify what had happened at the pupil’s home.

As a result of intervention by the Christian Legal Centre and extensive media coverage, the Council arranged to meet Olive in the New Year. On Tuesday 19 January, Olive attended a meeting where she told the Council that she had not been present at a meeting where the family concerned had said that they did not wish to discuss faith matters, and that this information had not been relayed to her by colleagues. Olive therefore had no idea that her offer to pray for the pupil was not wanted by the family and would result in a complaint.

After hearing that Olive had been unaware of the family’s wishes, the Council affirmed that it valued Olive’s skills and offered her the opportunity to return to work.

Andrea Williams, Director of the Christian Legal Centre, said: “We are delighted with this outcome and that Olive Jones has been offered the opportunity to return back to her old job. Common sense has prevailed and once again the Christian Legal Centre was able to respond to Olive’s situation with legal and media support to ensure that she got a fair hearing. We will continue to support people like Olive, who should never have to face this kind of disproportionate action and discrimination for merely living out their Christian faith.”


Original article published 22/12/09

Olive Jones
, a 54-year-old mother of two from Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, taught maths to children who were too ill to attend school. She spoke to a female pupil about her belief in miracles and asked whether she could say a prayer.

Mrs Jones, who has more than 20 years’ experience in teaching, said the girl was too poorly for a maths lesson, so she decided to speak to her, but when the girl’s mother said they were not believers she did not go ahead.

During one of the visits the girl stayed in Mrs Jones' bedroom because she did not feel well enough for lessons, so Mrs Jones spoke to her mother and raised the subject of her faith, saying she believed God had saved her life.

Mrs Jones said when she was a teenager she had been driving a tractor on the family farm near Carmarthen in Wales when it slid down a slope but came to a halt just before tipping over. She said:

‘I shut my eyes and thought I was going to die. Then there was a sound of a rushing wind, like that described in the Bible, and then total stillness.

‘I was convinced it was a miracle. I shared my testimony to encourage the mother to believe that there is a God who answers prayer. I believe I have a personal relationship with God, who is a constant source of strength,’ she added.

Unbeknown to the teacher, the pupil’s mother made a complaint. The authorities did not inform Mrs Jones of any criticism.

Afterwards, when the teacher had another lesson with the pupil she once again referred to the incident involving the tractor and spoke about her belief in God.

‘I told them there were people praying for them, and I asked the child if I could pray for her,’ Mrs Jones said.

‘She looked at her mother, who said, “We come from a family who do not believe”, so I did not pray.

‘I asked the mother if she wanted me to cancel the next lesson as her daughter had not been feeling up to maths, but she said no.’

Mrs Jones left the lesson on good terms with the girl’s mother, but within a few hours she was asked by the head of the Oak Hill Short Stay School and Tuition Service in Nailsea, North Somerset, to go to her office. The head of the service told Mrs Jones that sharing her faith with a child could be considered as bullying. Shortly after the conversation at the office she was dismissed from the job.

Mrs Jones, who attends her local Church of England church, said she was ‘devastated’ by the decision to sack her and added that it was ‘completely disproportionate’.

‘If I had done something criminal, I believe the reaction would have been the same. It is like a black mark against my name and character when it comes to getting a reference for another job, just because I shared my testimony – as if I committed a criminal act,’ she said.

‘It was only when I mentioned prayer that the mother said I do not want prayer, we do not believe, so I did not go ahead.’

‘I’m not out to get anyone, I am angry at their interpretation of freedom of speech. I am amazed that a country with such a strong Christian tradition has become a country where it is hard to speak about your faith, Mrs Jones added.

‘I am not angry with my bosses, as they are trying to interpret new equality and diversity policies,’ she said. ‘But I am angry with the politically-correct system and about the fact that you can’t mention anything to do with faith to people who might find it of use.

‘My main concern is the interpretation of the policies concerned, which seem very ambiguous.

‘It is as if my freedom of speech is being restricted. I feel I am being persecuted for speaking about my faith in a country that is supposed to be Christian.

‘I feel if I had spoken about almost any other topic I would have been fine but Christianity is seen as a no-go area. It felt as if I was being treated as a criminal. It is like a bad dream that had come true,’ she said.

Nick Yates, a spokesman for North Somerset Council, said:

‘Olive Jones has worked as a supply teacher, working with the North Somerset Tuition service. A complaint has been made by a parent regarding Olive. This complaint is being investigated.

‘To complete the investigation we need to speak to Olive and we have offered her a number of dates so this can happen. At the moment we are waiting for her to let us know which date is convenient for her.’

The Christian Legal Centre is backing Olive Jones cases. Andrea Williams, Director of CLC commented ‘The story of Olive Jones is sadly becoming all too familiar in this country. It is the result of a heavy-handed so-called equalities agenda that discriminates against Christians and seeks to eliminate Christian expression from the public square.


Christian Legal Centre, 22/12/2009

Feedback:
Peter Carr 23/12/2009 07:30
"I feel I am being persecuted for speaking about my faith in a country that is supposed to be Christian."

This where the rubber hits the road, so to speak! At what point, and when did we cross the line from being a Christian country to becoming a post-Christian country, and how does that impact how we witness on a one to one basis?

Matthew 10:16 (New International Version)

Jesus says, "I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves."
John Parker (Guest) 23/12/2009 08:44
Definition of the word "shrewd"

5429 phronimos (fron'-ee-mos); thoughtful, i.e. sagacious or discreet (implying a cautious character)

in the KJV 'wise'.

The same word is used of the wise man who built his house (Matt 7:24), the faithful and wise servant (Matt24:45), the wise bridesmaids (Matt 25:4)

But the primary thrust of the Bible and the mandate to us is to bear bold witness to Jesus Christ - whatever the cost).

Regarding the question Peter poses 'when did we cross the line' I feel that it has been progressive - certainly 9/11 changed many things, but in the last 5 years the anti-Christian ethos has been growing, and from recent reports has accelerated rapidly in even in the last 18 months or so.
Rosemary Cameron 23/12/2009 21:42
I think we need to be both wise and sensitive when witnessing at work, particularly to colleagues and clients who can't get away from us! I would be pretty fed up if a colleague of another faith kept pushing it at me during working hours! Particular sensitivity is needed when dealing with vulnerable clients such as the sick or children. There is also the issue of whether we should be witnessing in company time! I don't leave my faith behind when I walk through the door of the well-known high street store where I currently work, but I don't push it on my colleagues either. I try to witness by doing a good job and treating people with respect, patience and kindness.

I don't think this case is a simple freedom of speech issue - it is more complex than that.
M. Butley (Guest) 26/12/2009 00:48
What is a "Christian" country?

The lady in question should have been more professional and stuck to maths. I dont think she should have been sacked though we do not know how, say aggressive, she was with her witnessing.
Alec (Guest) 26/12/2009 10:34
Just another example of Pharisaical behaviour by evangelicals. The bible, and in particular, Jesus' own words make it abundantly clear how prayer should be done:

Matthew 5:

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Its as clear as day. Yet so often we read of instances like this where pushy people try to make a big deal of their faith - "just look at me, I'm so holy, so full of the spirir, I am better than you"

As M Butley correctly points out, stick to what you are employed to do and if you want to pray for someone do it at home in peace and quiet as Jesus himself tells you.

There was another example of this recently with Nicky Gumbel when he took it upon hiumself to play the Pharisee in front of a group of church leaders at Number 10

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1235410/Let-pray-evangelist-stuns-No10-party-guests.html
George Orr 28/12/2009 22:58
Alec says
"As M Butley correctly points out, stick to what you are employed to do and if you want to pray for someone do it at home in peace and quiet as Jesus himself tells you."

Yet you seem to have problems with Nicky Gumbel doing exactly that?

Why on earth would Christian believer (even a leader) want to pray at a meeting with other Christian believers? He even had the audacity to pray for the political leader of our country!

He must be mad!
Alec (Guest) 30/12/2009 09:24
George Orr

Read what I said again - "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen"

Gumbel made a big deal of praying in front of a group of other people at a party. No doubt it was a good ego stroking moment for him

I agree with you though, he is mad. He is a pentecostal / charismaniac. QED.

George Orr 04/01/2010 11:10
Alec (Guest)

Sure Alec that's the only way a Christian can pray!

Sheesh, just how small is your bible?
Jamesg 02/02/2010 17:11
Im so glad to hear this news God does answer prayer these days this lady was doing what i call Honouring God the bible says them that honour me i will honour and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.
KJV.
JamesGordon

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