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Loyalist march phone calls to councillors probe


Derry Boys March April 2008Highland councillors who have  publicly voiced concerns over the Loyalist march which took place through the streets of Inverness have received allegedly intimidating phone calls, and the matter is being investigated by the police.

Though the elected city  councillors were against the sectarian event of last weeked, the march went ahead as it did last year under the protection of EU human rights legislation.

It has been reported that John Finnie and John Holden both received phone calls from march supporters.
Ex-policman Mr. Finnie has been quoted as saying: "People have very strong views about sectarian marches."

It is generally accepted that these events have their roots in political and religious sectarianism and have nothing whatsoever to do Christianity and Christ's teaching and example of loving one's enemies.


Picture: Press & Journal


Christians Together, 07/04/2008

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Peter Reynolds 17/04/2008 11:51
But the assumptions, whilst they did not have certainty, were based on two things:
1) The P & J report as to where most of the marchers had come from
2) My knowledge of Protestant churches in the Highlands over the last 30 years or so (I've been completely unaware of any involvement with Orange type movements, indeed I think the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland is opposed to them, despite strong opposition to Popery). I can't think of any church in the area that would fit into that mould - possibly individual adherents might, or even the odd communicant member, but it wouldn't be generally approved, so far as I know.
Truthteller (Guest) 18/04/2008 10:29
Is general approval the litmus test? As you have said, these people have the right to march, regardless of your approval or, indeed, "general" approval.

Remember that the opinion of the majority is a dangerous thing to use in your defence. As is the media...

Remember also that the people who marched were celebrating a period in which tyranny was overthrown and civil & religious liberties were won. You may disapprove of which football team the marchers support (ASSUMING it is Rangers) but you surely approve of the freedom to worship God you enjoy? And, of course, the freedom to express your views here?
rr (Guest) 15/11/2012 13:36
It is disappointing that Christians together have said that this is a sectarian event in there article. I am a member of the apprentice boys and was born and raised in Inverness. For the record I am not or have I ever been a Rangers fan we have several members that do not follow football at all some are hearts, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock supporters and 90% of members are from the Highlands with members as far as Thurso and the Islands and down to Perth. Most members are loyal to the Apprentice boys and often attend marches throughout the UK regardless if it clashes with a football match or not so there is no connection between bigotry between football clubs and members of the ABOD. I am not saying the crowds that support the marches are the same but the actual members of the Inverness branch are far from sectarians. In fact we regularly attend church services as a club in every town we march through to thank god for being able to march and to pray for the 13 apprentice boys but also for unity among all of man kind.

The site is called Christians together but clearly feels the protestant members of the apprentice boys of Derry are not welcome to be united with other Christians. May I also add that The ABOD is not an orange order of any form and its only purpose is to remember the opening and closing of the gates of Derry and the sacrifice made these young men. It was also enjoyed by both sides of the sectarian divide before the troubles broke out in N.I
DS (Guest) 20/08/2013 20:32
Time to move on from this nonsense. Or why not start a march to remember the fallen highlanders of Culloden? March for something that would make a difference to peoples lifes NOW not some bygone era.
Editor 21/08/2013 10:50
"Time to move on from this nonsense."

Very sadly Northern Ireland is (as I write) experiencing a further outbreak of unionist/republican Protestant/Roman Catholic civil disorder and violence surrounding these events.

There is a very powerful religious spirit involved in these things which has nothing whatsoever to do with Christ and the Gospel.
Jack 21/08/2013 11:10
Quote : There is a very powerful religious spirit involved in these things which has nothing whatsoever to do with Christ and the Gospel.
Ed, this is true for all man-made pseudo-christian religion which has always been prevalent in 'modern' society.
Thankfully this 'very powerful'spirit to which you refer has no power to influence and provoke the true Church
Editor 21/08/2013 11:43
"Thankfully this 'very powerful'spirit to which you refer has no power to influence and provoke the true Church"

But we can see the spirit of 'religion' rampant in the world around us and even within the church. In the Highlands and Islands it is manifest in a variety of ways - legalism and hyper-Calvinism to name but two.
Editor 21/08/2013 12:04
"Thankfully this 'very powerful'spirit to which you refer has no power to influence and provoke the true Church"

But we can see the spirit of 'religion' rampant in the world around us and even within the church. In the Highlands and Islands it is manifest in a variety of ways - legalism, hyper-Calvinism and denominational pride to name but a few.
Jack 21/08/2013 12:06
But Colin those with legalistic tendencies are generally man-made and man sustained 'Christians' - and since no such thing as 'man-made' Christian can exist - there can be no such thing as a legalistic Christian in the true body of Christ............
As for hyper Calvinists - I'd better watch what I say about them because, in so far as I believe that true Salvation is by God's eternal design and 100% God's choice and initiate, I might well be one myself...
But I'm open to persuasion, if you an answer the following question:
How can one who is completely and utterly lost in, and enslaved by Sin, find themselves with the freedom to choose Christ - except by God's gracious initiative?
Editor 21/08/2013 13:27
Sorry Jack I'm not getting into soteriology and Armenian/Calvinist debates on this thread (in fact I'm not very much inclined to get into that at all. What is much more important - and exestintial with real and very important consequences - is the 'Once Saved/Always Saved' question. And you can find that at -
http://www.christianstogether.net/Articles/332946/Christians_Together_in/Christian_Life/Christian_Survival_Resource/Once_saved_always.aspx

Feel free to respond to that one, but I do need to say that the 'rules of engagement' are very strict. A particular view can only be supported by putting forward pure Scripture without comment.

If someone can't find the Bible saying it then God is not saying it.

It is permissible however to critique the verses that others have posted.
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